Politics meme from [profile] parrot_knight

Nov. 7th, 2007 05:53 pm
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I'm not sure about this, it seems to me to have the embedded assumption that if you don't want large corporations bossing you around, you want a government to do so instead.

You are a

Social Liberal
(68% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(31% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat (31e/68s)




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Date: 2007-11-07 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rustica.livejournal.com
Woah! Some very deep questions here. "The word of God exists only as human beings interpret it"? I'll get back to you on the answer when I've thought through the question.

"It should be legal for two consenting adults to challenge each other to a duel and fight a Death Match." I like this one. I vote yes, but only so long as light sabres are involved. And the participants dress like chickens.

"I should be able to sell my vote for cash if I feel like it."
Time honoured tradition in the days of open voting. In fact, this was one of the main arguments against the secret ballot. And actually, there's a reasonable argument for making people accountable for the way they vote - or would be, if the current system were being abused, which I don't think it is. But yeah, it is possible to have a workable system that rests on the sale of votes.

And - what? Identifying presidential candidates? Pfft! I wouldn't be able to identify British MPs!

Yay! I'm a socialist! Pretty accurate result.

Date: 2007-11-07 08:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alitalf.livejournal.com
...if the current system were being abused, which I don't think it is - apart from the fiddling of postal votes in some places, of course?

Actual socialism, as distinct from a number of socialist ideas I believe in, is not for me - like the ents, nobody is entirely on my side - but socialists as we have in the UK gov are more hostile to people like me, and small companies, than the other lot. I would be hopeless at being an employee of a large corporation, so they scare me more than the rest. Of course, if the others wanted to do extreme things like abolish the NHS that would worry me even more.

From Aesop's fables, I want the equivalent of King Log most of the time, what we get is King Stork.

It seems to me that a government can get away with doing more damage to an institution that it is traditionally thought to support - hence the activities of the National Institute for Culling the Elderly denying the more effective (but costly) treatment for patients with macular degeneration, alzheimers and so on (except in Scotland, of course).

Date: 2007-11-07 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rustica.livejournal.com
Well, stealing votes (via postal voting fraud) is not the same as a problem with votes being sold :). And in fact even in the days of open voting there were problems with identity theft. Plus ca change, eh?

Scotland is certainly doing a lot of things right at the moment. Makes you wonder why our bunch can't get their backsides in gear...

Date: 2007-11-09 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estiel.livejournal.com
And have I not said you're smarter than everybody (except Wellinghall, of course)? I'm in total agreement. Institutionalized bureaucracy is the logical conclusion of socialism. Efficiency becomes the supreme value very rapidly. Ultimately, it becomes the only value. Diversity, deviation, variation of any kind quickly becomes inconvenient and finally forbidden. It's just the nature of the beast.

Date: 2007-11-08 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freddiethetroll.livejournal.com
Socialists and democrats eh?

Apparently there are still some of you left...


You can tell it's an American meme though - they cannot even comprehend the existence of communists.





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Date: 2007-11-09 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estiel.livejournal.com
Interesting that it was the absence of communism that revealed its American origin and not something a bit more obvious, as, say, Democrats and Republicans.

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