My understanding is that the old man who shouted "Rubbish" ... at the Labour Party conference did more than just that; though I now can't remember the details. Though I think I remember that he was trying to prevent other people from expressing themselves while he expressed himself, that seemed a good reason to chuck him out. I believe there was more.
One of the problems is that it apparently takes somewhat longer to gather evidence in the very complex cases that terrorism cases often are.
Personally, I'd prefer to not be a victim of a terrorist incident. The balance between a few innocent people locked up without real cause for, say, 90 days, compared to dozens of people killed because the police were unable to lock up the real terrorists for long enough to get the evidence to convict them seems a regrettable but possibly necessary evil.
The more people who get killed and injured by terrorists the greater the arguments for extended periods of detention. Personally, I don't think we have got to the stage of justifying 90 days. But how many people have to die before we do?
We want the benefits of living in this country. We as a collective group need to be prepared to defend them. While I'm not explicitly promoting the argument to extend the period of detention; I am in general favour of the principle behind it: that of defending our values. If the terrorists win and make our country what they want, rather than what we want, then we will have lost a lot more than 90 days in a police cell.
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Date: 2007-10-09 10:30 pm (UTC)One of the problems is that it apparently takes somewhat longer to gather evidence in the very complex cases that terrorism cases often are.
Personally, I'd prefer to not be a victim of a terrorist incident. The balance between a few innocent people locked up without real cause for, say, 90 days, compared to dozens of people killed because the police were unable to lock up the real terrorists for long enough to get the evidence to convict them seems a regrettable but possibly necessary evil.
The more people who get killed and injured by terrorists the greater the arguments for extended periods of detention. Personally, I don't think we have got to the stage of justifying 90 days. But how many people have to die before we do?
We want the benefits of living in this country. We as a collective group need to be prepared to defend them. While I'm not explicitly promoting the argument to extend the period of detention; I am in general favour of the principle behind it: that of defending our values. If the terrorists win and make our country what they want, rather than what we want, then we will have lost a lot more than 90 days in a police cell.